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New Articles (February 24 to March 2)

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 A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.20 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 01:19, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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ROM Downloads as RS

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I am bringing this over from the Teahouse by Recommendation of User:Slowking Man. As far as I can tell there aren't any explicit restrictions on citing ROM downloads for games (such as fan translations or own created). I have encountered them at Rhythm Tengoku and List of Creepypastas and just marked them using "Non-primary source needed". An admin in the thread explained that they are most likely copyvio (especially since the former is a fan translation and the latter is based off of Godzilla), but I thought I should ask for additional opinions and maybe add it to the project's sources page. Yes I am a nerd -XCBRO172 (How could you tell?) 04:31, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think besides copyright concerns, citing fan translations would be tricky as the inherent nature of translation means details and character names can and have changed (for good or ill) between the different fans doing the translating. Harryhenry1 (talk) 04:51, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, unless the ROM is wholly the work of a fan creation and free of any IP issues, most ROMs would be possible copyright problems and should be avoided as a source. Masem (t) 04:51, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Correct, this would be a WP:COPYVIO problem. If you've witnessed this elsewhere, then you've simply observed other errors needing fixing. We can't be linking to rom downloads on Wikipedia. Sergecross73 msg me 15:05, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm gonna chime in and say only (keyword being ONLY) cite links to the ROM if they are provided by the original developer or publisher, like how Gaelco did with the 1993 arcade game World Rally years ago (https://web.archive.org/web/20100608111145/http://www.gaelco.es/pages/hablando/frhablan.htm) for example. Roberth Martinez (talk) 21:40, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

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Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:16, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability for esports events

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Would've asked at Wikipedia:ESPORTS, but that project looks very dead, so I figured I'd ask here. I recently finished improving Pokémon competitive play and figured that I may start planning in case I hit up Pokémon World Championships in the future. The main problem with that article is that it's covering a large number of events from prior years that lack articles (The 2014, 15, and 16 Championships), and no other articles bar 2023 Pokémon World Championships have articles. I checked around, but there's no equivalent policy to Wikipedia:NSPORTS for esports, and from what research I've done for the competitive play article, all coverage on past Championships events seems to be largely Wikipedia:ROUTINE at best, with little in the way of lasting notability.

What should be done in regards to covering esports events in this manner? Should all content be cut bar the bare essentials for past events? Should the events be split out into a list? Into individual articles? I'm not really quite sure what criteria these events are working on for notability, so I wanted to ask for advice on how best to cover these events under the project's scope. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find reliable independent sources writing prose about these events, then you're fine. In my experience, being able to describe how the event went and what happened in it is what you need. Helpful information is what makes the event different from previous incarnations. Being able to describe what happened in the major matches themselves, and how the tournaments fit into the stories of the major competitors, is the other half that makes writing these interesting and fun. Having written Evo 2011 up to Evo 2017 in the past, such competitions can have a lot of details to cover. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:21, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Maplestrip Most of them are primarily not covering the battles themselves, bar maybe the final rounds of the tournament, and even then it's minimal. Even then, bar something like the 2014 Pachirisu incident, most of these events lack any actual SUSTAINED coverage, which doesn't help what paltry coverage exists. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:43, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If sources aren't giving full play-by-plays of the finales, then we don't either. If sources are like "X used narrowly defeated Y with this unusual strategy," then that sounds like a great inclusion. I think it's usually only the finale or the highest-few matches that get any kind of description of what happened and that's fine. Something that can be cool, for example, is when a newcomer comes in and makes it to, say, 7th place, but then goes on to be a major figure in the scene from then on. Lots of things like that can make a tournament more historically connected and relevant. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To start, the basics should be followed, like WP:GNG and WP:GAMECRUFT. Many of the ones I stumble upon doing even do that. I've never thought the endless tournament brackets were appropriate for an encyclopedia, but I don't edit the area, let alone prominently enough to combat the endless adding of them. Sergecross73 msg me 19:39, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A nice little table or chart is nice, but yeah, we're not a sports almanac. We should focus on adding descriptions and context instead, it's frustrating to just see lists of names and placements. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 21:40, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. Thank you both! I'll probably try to condense the rankings down to just major winners and such for the time being, and cover what I can in prose. Granted I'll need to research that, but still. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:44, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've never had issues with brackets as long as the tournament itself was notable like The International, but rosters of mostly non-notable players and a list of results in non-notable tournaments is a different story. Liquidpedia exists for that sort of thing. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:47, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Non-English game titles

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I'm asking for someone to look into and help with the editing of non-English game titles by User:Ding Chavez. I can determine from my experience that the addition of the French title to The Awesome Adventures of Captain Spirit was incorrect due to the game being published internationally in English by Square Enix. But I struggle with, e.g. The Mysterious Cities of Gold: Secret Paths, published by Ynnis Interactive. This appears to be a literal translation, so Template:EFN should be used in any case like on Japanese games. Regards IgelRM (talk) 19:40, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm misunderstanding, if The Mysterious Cities of Gold wasn't officially released as Les Mystérieuses Cités d'Or in France then it shouldn't be listed. We should be avoiding the use of unofficial/fan translations unless it was mentioned by sources or is a part of a franchise that does have an official English name. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:42, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry my post isn't exactly clear. According to the Mobygame entry, it was official released as that in French speaking regions. The question is whether that is relevant for the English Wikipedia based on that some parts were made by France-based companies. IgelRM (talk) 15:46, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If what you're saying is true, use EFN. If what Dissident says is true, leave it out. (I'm not familiar with this game so I don't know how it was released.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:49, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's box art with it so it seems to have been localized in several different European languages per Mobygames. Since it's by a French studio, it can be footnoted like with Japanese names for Japanese-made games. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, good find. Looks like there's consensus then. Sergecross73 msg me 15:53, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Whales

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Hello. While editing, I wanted to link to the concept of Whale (video games).

This term, sometimes viewed as derogatory, refers to a small number of highly engaged players who provide significant revenue to live-service games. In 2024, for example, League of Legends's game director said that "the vast majority of players spend $0 on a free play game. As a consequence of that, the majority of our revenue comes from a small, single-digit percentage of players" (PC Gamer).

Whale (video games) does not redirect. When I visited to Whale (disambiguation), it provides High roller as a similar term in gambling. Whale (gaming) redirects to Free to play#Comparison with traditional model. The term is mentioned in live-service games under the "Microtransactions" bit (currently unsourced).

I can spend some time on this in the near-future but wanted to first solicit views here on the best way and place to integrate, if good sourcing exists for it. My current, working view is that the right place to bundle it would be within a Free-to-play header within live-service games. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 14:13, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My nuanced take is that we should talk about whales as an important part of the free-to-play model, but not necessarily use that term, or even give it a separate article. The term can be seen as derogatory, though it is still one of the most common terms. Putting it in the context of, say, microtransactions would help readers understand why these high paying customers are so important. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:03, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the input, Shooter. Contextualising alongside microtransactions makes sense. I understand it's a term a lot of people don't like, but yeah it is very widely used. If it did have its own article, what would you name it instead? — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 18:16, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure. I've heard the more neutral "high-value customer", but this applies to customers outside gaming too. I've also heard the term "power user", but this includes other types of software, and isn't always about monetization. If we're being incremental, maybe start by expanding a section in the microtransaction article, and if it grows really quickly, the article title will present itself. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha. So far, I've only seen sources refer to them as "whales". WP:NOTCENSORED may apply regarding the offensive part of it. I will see what is out there and report back in a bit. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 18:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll just jump in and say I've never heard the term considered derogatory in communities, in fact there have been variations of it come up in those around mobile games such as FGO such as dolphin for someone that spends occasionally and leviathan for those that spend massive amounts on a title. I feel that could use some sourcing to establish that of course, but Shoot's comment did take my by surprise.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:43, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From my experience as a former devout League of Legends player, some of my big-spender friends dislike it because it... well, it compares them to a gigantic ocean mammal. "Dolphin" is definitely cuter and fits me (hopefully I qualify with my one-battle pass-a-year purchase). Hell, "whale" is one of the non-person WP:WikiFauna. I'll be curious to see what sourcing says – my current understanding is that the term was borrowed from gambling and considerably predates online gaming. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 20:56, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's worth noting that "whale" is not a game industry specific term. It's also used in gambling (see high roller) and marketing in a similar sense. Axem Titanium (talk) 08:18, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you might just be restating what the message you're replying to says – my OP mentions high rollers too. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 11:14, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not disagreeing with you, just adding my 2p. Axem Titanium (talk) 03:50, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One quick comment I'd make based on Shooterwalker's comment here is that we shouldn't censor whales, but there is a fair point that if you are talking about how a video game is being monetized and purposely towards the few that spend lots of money on the game, its probably not best to start talking about them as "whales" without any other context even if that's language used by the sources, simply because its not easily a term to know the definition in context. However, a statement like "Dev Q said that their goal with microtransactions was to target high-value customers, or whales." would be certainty a good way to give immediate context to the term. Masem (t) 04:11, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
League reads At the 2024 Summer Game Fest, game director Pu Liu said that revenue is primarily generated by a "single-digit percentage" of players, colloquially known as whales. The only other use quotes a source's whale chasing. If the section contained more material, I'd feel stronger about varying the language up. This works for me from a comprehensibility and a human POV. It's quite literally dehumanising; they're players. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 04:25, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
remember we have or glossary page, where whale is defined. And while it may seem derogatory, it is absolutely a term used by those that work with or study micro transaction-based games (proverbally based on targeting the few whales among all the smaller fish out there), so I don't think trying to mask the term is really appropriate, particularly if no sources treat it that way. (counter example, "walking simulator" has been documented as being a derogatory term initially but the broader consensus has since changed). Masem (t) 18:48, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding this (and Kung Fu Man too.) I'd work on building up the glossary entry, and using redirect(s) to link to that. I'm unconcerned about it being derogatory, as it has no real documented negative social/political connotations that I've ever seen. Sergecross73 msg me 19:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense, Masem and Serge. Is there a help page that will explain how I redirect a page to a specific section of an article that isn't a heading? — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 20:56, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Use #REDIRECT [[page name#section or anchor name]] — Masem (t) 21:16, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For clarification, I'm not opposed to talking about derogatory terms in an encyclopedic way. I'm just suggesting that the encyclopedic home for this topic wouldn't be at a page about the name-calling, but at a page about the monetization strategy more broadly. (e.g.: microtransaction, free to play, or even high roller given the proximity to gambling). Shooterwalker (talk) 03:01, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any examples of its use in a derogatory manner? I've only ever seen it used like that in like message board chatter - the sort of stuff we wouldn't factor into an encyclopedia. Sergecross73 msg me 18:03, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Articles (March 3 to March 9)

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Main page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/New article announcements
 A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.20 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 18:29, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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For those sick of seeing Overwatch on this, I have bad news: I have at least 4 more potential spinouts in the oven for the Good Topic project I'm working on. My apologies in advance.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:13, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like my several nasty letters didn't reach you in time, then. I'd sum them up here but they're quite vulgar. Panini! • 🥪 05:36, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on the reliability of Noisy Pixel

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Anyone interested please see WP:RSN#Noisy Pixel -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 18:30, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Wii U

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Wii U has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 08:14, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FAR notice

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I have nominated Kingdom Hearts for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 08:33, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of reliable sources noticeboard discussion

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is EssentiallySports. Thank you. --Left guide (talk) 05:12, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Articles (March 10 to March 16)

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Main page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/New article announcements
 A listing of all articles newly added to the Video Games Wikiproject (regardless of creation date). Generated by v3.20 of the RecentVGArticles script and posted by PresN. Bug reports and feature requests are appreciated. --PresN 11:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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"Video games playable in Street Fighter 6" is certainly one of the categories of all time. --PresN 11:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Durrr Burger article would have turned out particularly lame if made by anyone else, but Johnson524 has done great work with it. Panini! • 🥪 23:14, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Arguably that article is reaaaaaally stretching it. I'm not seeing much from the sourcing that contributes "significant coverage" particularly in development or reception, just a lot of the fact that Durr Burger pops up frequently in Fortnite and related merch, using weak sourcing (yes, you have sites like Polygon, but this reflects the heavy amount of SEO articles on how to do X in game Y that nearly all major sites do to keep themselves relevant). Masem (t) 00:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Did y'all hear something? Panini! • 🥪 00:14, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Panini!: Thank you so much for your first comment! You just made my day x10 better 🙂 Cheers! Johnson524 01:18, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do have to echo Masem's concerns, especially regarding character notability. It's clearly had a lot of work done but some of it feels stretched.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:23, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, third'd. Sergecross73 msg me 02:28, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kung Fu Man, @Sergecross73, I hear your concerns, but what can I do specifically to improve this page? Cheers! Johnson524 02:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the sourcing is weak, probably not much. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:40, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The main problem is all the discussion is, well, promotion info. There's no understanding why this character in particular is notable or discussed, and instead it grabs stuff like "iconic" and whatnot which in the long run...really don't say much. There's no meat on this bone at all.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dissident93: Due to the nature of the article, every single source on the page was verified with WP:VG/S first, 100% of which fall under Reliable Sources. There aren't even any situational sources used on the page. A fair amount of these reliable sources discuss the character as a primary topic as opposed to a passing mention, though some still do. Because of this, I really don't see a sourcing issue. @Kung Fu Man The character has been used in virtually every chapter of Fortnite, had its own official game mode, placed 25th in an Dot Esports best skins ranking, has been recognized as notable by Dot Esports and CNBC (in lead), and was a key part of the 2018 ARG run by Fortnite. I included much of this I guess promotional material to establish notability, and wrote it as neutral to the best of my ability. Would you like to see some of this removed or changed further? If so I'd be happy to continue communicating with you on the Durrr Burger talk page, as I'd love to see the article achieve GA status eventually. Cheers! Johnson524 03:16, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Promotional material, on its own, does not establish any notability. It can appear in every chapter of Fortnite, certainly, but what does that mean for any real world importance or analysis? Where's discussion to illustrate it matters beyond the scope of just Fortnite itself or understanding it further helps one understand that game? These are things you need to establish for a character article. Right now we know it exists, it's commented as iconic within the scope of Fortnite, and that's about it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would say that there is a potential (but I can't 100% say for sure) of a List of Fortnite characters, as things like Durr Burger, the Fortnite Llama, and in-game characters like Jonesy and Peely, which if you took the promotional aspects out, the remaining content would be appropriate. Masem (t) 03:55, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kung Fu Man: One of my favorite character articles I've seen, and one that just so happened to be promoted by you as well, was Ditto (Pokémon). The only other Fortnite character article, Peely, wasn't very helpful to gain inspiration from, at least in the context of GA quality, so I turned to other GA articles like this one. From the formatting of the page to even the section headers, you can tell a lot of love and quality was put into the page 🙂 That being said, the main three themes for promotion and reception section of the Ditto article is that the character is: 1. Seen and commented on for its appearance in a franchise-related movie, 2. Commented on by a number of major publishers, and 3. available in merchandise. These three main themes almost entirely make up the notability mentions in this part of the article. I think is completely fine though! That's why I did something very similar for the Durrr Burger article: but instead #1 is a real-life ARG game run by Fortnite instead of Detective Pikachu, and #3 is Legos and Halloween costumes instead of capsule toys to bean bag chairs. The point being these three echo very similar themes of notability with my character article, and I don't see why mine is a problem. I mean no disrespect and I sincerely apologize if I came off that way in any of my statements above. Cheers! Johnson524 03:56, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well with Ditto the reason its notable is because their analysis of its themes as a character and a species, discussions about how its been used and reactions to said usage, and how players have come to see it due to its gampelay mechanics. Understanding Ditto helps understand Pokemon better, and it has weight itself as a shapeshifter concept in fiction. If Ditto had just appeared a lot and didn't have any of that, the article wouldn't be there (and frankly speaking if merch and promotions alone counted, almost every Pokemon would have an article).

Is there that sort of content for Durrr Burger? Discussions on its use as a mascot? Analysis of that? Stuff like that? Because I looked while we were talking and I couldn't find that.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:04, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kung Fu Man: Not as much as with Ditto for sure, but it's still present. Without listing them off, supporting quotes about the characters impact are mentioned in the design and lore section by EuroGamer, In-game appearances by GameRevolution, and some already mentioned ones in the Promotion and reception section. The impact specifically of Durrr Burger's rivalry with another in-game Pizza business saw support from a number or players in and outside of the game (outside being the subreddit mention), and opposition from the real-life burger chain Wendy's, who repeatedly went against Durrr Burger in conversation and in game. I could potentially find more supporting quotes in the sources already mentioned, I just truly believed that these had already established notability. Cheers! Johnson524 04:18, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Eurogamer ref is basically discussing the event; it gives no indication why the character is important. The Wendy's "rivalry" can also be summed up more about the impact of Fortnite than about the character itself. What are your WP:THREE specifically that illustrate this character as important? Like this here you're citing as a source from CNBC when it's just saying it's "iconic" strictly in the context of Fortnite: the article is entirely about that game and its promotion. This isn't WP:SIGCOV for reception.
If you want to look at my work as a guide have three Overwatch character articles above. Look at how the reception sections on those is structure, and what they're saying to help illustrate those characters. OW is close enough to Fortnite for this example to give you an idea of what to look for. And by god I'm not expecting that level of sourcing but at least...something. And I'm sorry if I'm pushing hard, but I respect the work you put in, and I'm hoping I'm wrong and there's some sourcing you might've overlooked, or it helps you understand what to look for so you can write stronger articles for subjects that do meet notability.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:32, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As someone who supports the idea of articles about fictional concepts, I'd still have to agree with the others that it only has trivial coverage. The main thing that got publicity is an ARG, rather than the fictional burger chain itself. Even if the ARG was notable, that wouldn't count towards this particular article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:48, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
... Must have been the wind. Panini! • 🥪 16:23, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I could try to look into this guy, but as it stands, I agree that there's not the kind of coverage that is going to help show notability. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:34, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Panini! These kinds of dismissive comments really don't reflect great on you. -- ferret (talk) 21:50, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I kid because I know you all can take it :). Happy to assist with the article if it's determined to be of consideration. Panini! • 🥪 22:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for MkLeo

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MkLeo has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to sound harsh, but I feel like you should finish what's on your plate before opening any more after this: there's still Crash Bandicoot (character) open for GAR at the time and from what I can tell it's mostly done, just needs more contemporary reception?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 04:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
oops completely forgot about that. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 04:30, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Someone should look over at the Super Smash Bros esports players' articles, like Glutonny. There are a lot of unreliable sources being used. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 06:07, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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